Having tried out field, some comments (from [[smcv]]):
The general concept looks great.
The pagetemplate hook seems quite namespace-polluting: on a site containing
a list of books, I'd like to have an author field, but that would collide
with IkiWiki's use of <TMPL_VAR AUTHOR> for the author of the page
(i.e. me). Perhaps it'd be better if the pagetemplate hook was only active for
<TMPL_VAR FIELD_AUTHOR> or something? (For those who want the current
behaviour, an auxiliary plugin would be easy.)
No, please. The idea is to be able to override field names if one wishes to, and choose, for yourself, non-colliding field names if one wishes not to. I don't wish to lose the power of being able to, say, define a page title with YAML format if I want to, or to write a site-specific plugin which calculates a page title, or other nifty things.
It's not like one is going to lose the fields defined by the meta plugin; if "author" is defined by [[!meta author=...]] then that's what will be found by "field" (provided the "meta" plugin is registered; that's what the "field_register" option is for).
--[[KathrynAndersen]]
Hmm. I suppose if you put the title (or whatever) in the YAML, then
"almost" all the places in IkiWiki that respect titles will do the
right thing due to the pagetemplate hook, with the exception being
anything that has special side-effects inside meta (like date),
or anything that looks in $pagestate{foo}{meta} directly
(like map). Is your plan that meta should register itself by
default, and map and friends should be adapted to
work based on getfield() instead of $pagestate{foo}{meta}, then?
Based on field_get_value(), yes. That would be my ideal. Do you think I should implement that as an ikiwiki branch? --[[KathrynAndersen]]
(On the site I mentioned, I'm using an unmodified version of field,
and currently working around the collision by tagging books' pages
with bookauthor instead of author in the YAML.) --s
From a coding style point of view, the $CamelCase variable names aren't
IkiWiki style, and the match_foo functions look as though they could benefit
from being thin wrappers around a common &IkiWiki::Plugin::field::match
function (see meta for a similar approach).
I think the documentation would probably be clearer in a less manpage-like
and more ikiwiki-like style?
I don't think ikiwiki has a "style" for docs, does it? So I followed the Perl Module style. And I'm rather baffled as to why having the docs laid out in clear sections... make them less clear. --[[KathrynAndersen]]
I keep getting distracted by the big shouty headings :-)
I suppose what I was really getting at was that when this plugin
is merged, its docs will end up split between its plugin
page, [[plugins/write]] and [[ikiwiki/PageSpec]]; on some of the
contrib plugins I've added I've tried to separate the docs
according to how they'll hopefully be laid out after merge. --s
If one of my branches from [[todo/allow_plugins_to_add_sorting_methods]] is
accepted, a field() cmp type would mean that [[plugins/contrib/report]] can
stop reimplementing sorting. Here's the implementation I'm using, with
your "sortspec" concept (a sort-hook would be very similar): if merged,
I think it should just be part of field rather than a separate plugin.
# Copyright © 2010 Simon McVittie, released under GNU GPL >= 2
package IkiWiki::Plugin::fieldsort;
use warnings;
use strict;
use IkiWiki 3.00;
use IkiWiki::Plugin::field;
sub import {
hook(type => "getsetup", id => "fieldsort", call => \&getsetup);
}
sub getsetup () {
return
plugin => {
safe => 1,
rebuild => undef,
},
}
package IkiWiki::SortSpec;
sub cmp_field {
if (!length $_[0]) {
error("sort=field requires a parameter");
}
my $left = IkiWiki::Plugin::field::field_get_value($_[2], $_[0]);
my $right = IkiWiki::Plugin::field::field_get_value($_[2], $_[1]);
$left = "" unless defined $left;
$right = "" unless defined $right;
return $left cmp $right;
}
1;
Bug report: field has an unnecessary use YAML::Any, presumably from before
you separated out ymlfront. Trivial patch available from
field-etc branch in git://git.pseudorandom.co.uk/git/smcv/ikiwiki.git (gitweb:
http://git.pseudorandom.co.uk/smcv/ikiwiki.git?a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/field-etc)
--[[smcv]]
Can do for the field plugin (delete one line? Easy.) Will push when I get to a better connection. --[[KathrynAndersen]]
Done! -K.A.
Disclaimer: I've only looked at this plugin and ymlfront, not other related
stuff yet. (I quite like ymlfront, so I looked at this as its dependency. :)
I also don't want to annoy you with a lot of design discussion
if your main goal was to write a plugin that did exactly what you wanted.
My first question is: Why we need another plugin storing metadata
about the page, when we already have the meta plugin? Much of the
complication around the field plugin has to do with it accessing info
belonging to the meta plugin, and generalizing that to be able to access
info stored by other plugins too. (But I don't see any other plugins that
currently store such info). Then too, it raises points of confusion like
smcv's discuission of field author vs meta author above. --[[Joey]]
The point is exactly in the generalization, to provide a uniform interface for accessing structured data, no matter what the source of it, whether that be the meta plugin or some other plugin.
There were a few reasons for this:
- In converting my site over from PmWiki, I needed something that was equivalent to PmWiki's Page-Text-Variables (which is how PmWiki implements structured data).
- I also wanted an equivalent of PmWiki's Page-Variables, which, rather than being simple variables, are the return-value of a function. This gives one a lot of power, because one can do calculations, derive one thing from another. Heck, just being able to have a "basename" variable is useful.
- I noticed that in the discussion about structured data, it was mired down in disagreements about what form the structured data should take; I wanted to overcome that hurdle by decoupling the form from the content.
- I actually use this to solve (1), because, while I do use ymlfront, initially my pages were in PmWiki format (I wrote (another) unreleased plugin which parses PmWiki format) including PmWiki's Page-Text-Variables for structured data. So I needed something that could deal with multiple formats.
So, yes, it does cater to mostly my personal needs, but I think it is more generally useful, also.
--[[KathrynAndersen]]
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