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+<span class="desc"><br />Changed pages:</span>
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+<span class="desc"><br />Changed by:</span>
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+<a href="https://www.google.com/accounts/o8/id?id=AItOawmwYptyV5ptNt8LCbMYsmpcNkk9_DRt-EY" rel="nofollow">Matt</a>
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+<span class="changedate"><span class="relativedate" title="Wed, 03 Nov 2010 19:34:53 -0400">19:34:53 11/03/10</span></span>
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+diff --git a/doc/forum/Blog_posting_times_and_ikiwiki_state.mdwn b/doc/forum/Blog_posting_times_and_ikiwiki_state.mdwn
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++What I wanted
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++I thought to myself it would be nice to see from the console the dates that my ikiwiki blog posts were published. Especially as I would like to know the order of my todo list without having to view the webpage.
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++What I discovered
++-----------------
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++Looked at the code and saw the functions for grabbing the ctime from git but couldn&#39;t reconcile them to the &quot;Posted&quot; date in the RSS feed. Some more reading and I figured out that the Posted time is taken from the UNIX ctime when first uploaded into the repository and this information is stored in the page state via a Perl storable database - indexdb. (I&#39;m sure most know this but to be clear in UNIX ctime is *not* the actual creation time of a file. UNIX has no facility for recording the actual creation time - however on first upload to the wiki it&#39;s good enough).
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++Wrote a Perl script to query and sort indexdb. Now I can list my todos or blog posts in the order they appear on the web. Handy.
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++However the ikiwiki state is specifically excluded via &#39;.gitignore&#39;. I work a lot on trains and not having this file in my cloned wiki means I can&#39;t list published posts or my todos in the proper order. I can get an approximation from git logs but, dam it, I want it the same!
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++What can I do?
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++
++Is it a spectacularly bad idea to include the ikiwiki state file in my cloned repo (I suspect it is). What else could be done? Can I disable pagestate somehow or force ikiwiki to always use git commit times for Posted times?
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