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diff --git a/doc/todo/dependency_types.mdwn b/doc/todo/dependency_types.mdwn index 7e940543c..0503b47af 100644 --- a/doc/todo/dependency_types.mdwn +++ b/doc/todo/dependency_types.mdwn @@ -156,6 +156,67 @@ false negatives (though these should be somewhat rare, and no false positives). Still, it does work, and it makes things like simple maps and pagecounts much more efficient. +---- + +#### Will's first pass feedback. + +If the API is going to be updated, then it would be good to make it forward compatible. +I'd like for the API to be extendible to what is useful for complex pagespecs, even if we +that is a little redundant at the moment. + +My attempt to play with this is in my git repo. [[!template id=gitbranch branch=origin/depends-spec author="[[will]]"]] +That branch is a little out of date, but if you just look at the changes in IkiWiki.pm you'll see the concept I was looking at. +I added an "add_depends_spec()" function that adds a dependency on the pagespec passed to it. If the set of matched pages +changes, then the dependent page is rebuilt. At the moment the implementation uses the same hack used by map and inline - +just add all the pages that currently exist as traditional content dependencies. + +Getting back to commenting on your proposal: + +Just talking about the definition of a "presence dependency" for the moment, and ignoring implementation. Is a +"presence dependency" supposed to cause an update when a page disappears? I assume so. Is a presence dependency +supposed to cause an update when a pages existence hasn't changed, but it no longer matches the pagespec. +(e.g. you use `created_before(test_page)` in a pagespec, and there was a page, `new_page`, that was created +after `test_page`. `new_page` will not match the spec. Now we'll delete and then re-create `test_page`. Now +`new_page` will match the spec, and yet `new_page` itself hasn't changed. Nor has its 'presence' - it was present +before and it is present now. Should this cause a re-build of any page that has a 'presence' dependency on the spec? + +I think that is another version of the problem you encountered with meta-data. + +In the longer term I was thinking we'd have to introduce a concept of 'internal pagespec dependencies'. Note that I'm +defining 'internal' pagespec dependencies differently to the pagespec dependencies I defined above. Perhaps an example: +If you had a pagespec that was `created_before(test_page)`, then you could list all pages created before `test_page` +with a `map` directive. The map directive would add a pagespec dependency on `created_before(test_page)`. +Internally, there would be a second page-spec parsing function that discovers which pages a given pagespec +depends on. As well as the function `match_created_before()`, we'd have to add a new function `depend_created_before()`. +This new function would return a list of pages, which when any of them change, the output of `match_created_before()` +would change. In this example, it would just return `test_page`. + +These lists of dependent pages could just be concatenated for every `match_...()` function in a pagespec - you can ignore +the boolean formula aspects of the pagespec for this. If a content dependency were added on these pages, then I think +the correct rebuilds would occur. + +In all, this is a surprisingly difficult problem to solve perfectly. Consider the following case: + +PageA.mdwn: + +> [ShavesSelf] + +PageB.mdwn + +> Doesn't shave self. + +ShavedByBob.mdwn: + +> [!include pages="!link(ShavesSelf)"] + +Does ShavedByBob.mdwn include itself? + +(Yeah - in IkiWiki currently links are included by include, but the idea holds. I had a good example a while back, but I can't think of it right now.) + +sigh. + +-- [[Will]] + ---- ### Link dependencies |