Merge branch 'master' of ssh://git.ikiwiki.info/srv/git/ikiwiki.info

3 files changed, 11 insertions, 3 deletions

diff --git a/doc/todo/structured_page_data.mdwn b/doc/todo/structured_page_data.mdwn
index d9133b4aa..72bfd8dea 100644
--- a/doc/todo/structured_page_data.mdwn
+++ b/doc/todo/structured_page_data.mdwn
@@ -83,6 +83,9 @@ See also:
 >
 >The first use case is handled by having a template in the page creation.  You could
 
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 >have some type of form to edit the data, but that's just sugar on top of the template.
 >If you were going to have a web form to edit the data, I can imagine a few ways to do it:
 >
@@ -246,6 +249,7 @@ in a large number of other cases.
 > or, if you applied the patch in [[todo/tracking_bugs_with_dependencies]] then you can use 'defined pagespecs'
 > such as `data_link(Depends on,~openBugs)`. <a id="another_kind_of_links" />The ability to label links like this allows separation of
 > dependencies between bugs from arbitrary links.
+>> This issue (the need for distinguished kinds of links) has also been brought up in other discussions: [[tracking_bugs_with_dependencies#another_kind_of_links]] (deps vs. links) and [[tag_pagespec_function]] (tags vs. links). --Ivan Z.
 
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diff --git a/doc/todo/tag_pagespec_function.mdwn b/doc/todo/tag_pagespec_function.mdwn
index 71f3e81bc..0f2d306af 100644
--- a/doc/todo/tag_pagespec_function.mdwn
+++ b/doc/todo/tag_pagespec_function.mdwn
@@ -13,11 +13,11 @@ match tagged pages independent of whatever the tagbase is set to.
 > The only problem I see is it could be confusing if `tag(foo)` matched
 > a page that just linked to the tag via a wikilink, w/o actually tagging it.
 
->> Yes, this is confusing and not nice. I observed this misbehavior, because I wanted to match two different lists of pages (only tagged or linked in any way), but it didn't work. Would this feature require a complex patch? --Ivan Z.
+>> (My [[!taglink wishlist]].) Yes, this is confusing and not nice. I observed this misbehavior, because I wanted to match two different lists of pages (only tagged or linked in any way), but it didn't work. Would this feature require a complex patch? --Ivan Z.
 
 >>> If you link to a page 'foo' which happens to be a tag then the page you link from will turn up in the set of pages returned by tagged(foo). The only way to avoid this would be for the tag plugin to not use wikilinks as an implementation method. That itself would not be too hard to do, but there might be people relying on the older behaviour. A better alternative might be to have a "tag2" plugin (or a better name) which implements tagging entirely separately. -- [[Jon]]
+>>>> I see; at least, your response is encouraging (that it's not hard). I could even find some work that can give similar features: [[structured page data#another_kind_of_links]] -- they envisage a pagespec like `data_link(Depends on,bugs/bugA)`, thus a "separation of dependencies between bugs from arbitrary links". Indeed, having many relations that can be used in the formulas defining classes of objects (like pagespecs here) is a common thing, so this would be a nice feature. (I'll be trying out the patches there first, probably.) In general, extending the language of pagespecs to something more powerful (like [[!wikipedia description logics]]) seems to be a nice possible feature. I saw a discussion of similar ideas about the extension of the pagespec language somewhere here. --Ivan Z.
 
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 > One other thing, perhaps it should be called `tagged()`? --[[Joey]] 
 
 [[!tag patch done]]
diff --git a/doc/todo/tracking_bugs_with_dependencies.mdwn b/doc/todo/tracking_bugs_with_dependencies.mdwn
index ba653fdcc..3043cd9f2 100644
--- a/doc/todo/tracking_bugs_with_dependencies.mdwn
+++ b/doc/todo/tracking_bugs_with_dependencies.mdwn
@@ -11,6 +11,8 @@ I like the idea of [[tips/integrated_issue_tracking_with_ikiwiki]], and I do so
 >
 >> I thought about this briefly, and got about that far.. glad you got
 >> further. :-) --[[Joey]]
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+>> Or, one could also refer to the language of [[!wikipedia description logics]]: their formulas actually define classes of objects through quantified relations to other classes. --Ivan Z.
 > 
 > Another option would be go with a more functional syntax.  The concept here would
 > be to allow a pagespec to appear in a 'pagespec function' anywhere a page can.  e.g.
@@ -67,13 +69,15 @@ I like the idea of [[tips/integrated_issue_tracking_with_ikiwiki]], and I do so
 
 >>>> Yeah, guess that'd work. :-)
 
-> One quick further thought.  All the above discussion assumes that 'dependency' is the
+> <a id="another_kind_of_links" />One quick further thought.  All the above discussion assumes that 'dependency' is the
 > same as 'links to', which is not really true.  For example, you'd like to be able to say
 > "This bug does not depend upon [ [ link to other bug ] ]" and not have a dependency.
 > Without having different types of links, I don't see how this would be possible.
 >
 > -- [[Will]]
 
+>> I saw that this issue is targeted at by the work on [[structured page data#another_kind_of_links]]. --Ivan Z.
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 Okie - I've had a quick attempt at this.  Initial patch attached.  This one doesn't quite work.
 And there is still a lot of debugging stuff in there.