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Seems like there should be a page for you to post your thoughts about ikiwiki, both pro and con, anything that didn't work, ideas, or whatever. Do so here..

Note that for more formal bug reports or todo items, you can also edit the [[bugs]] and [[todo]] pages.

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Installation/Setup questions

Ikiwiki creates a .ikiwiki directory in my wikiwc working directory. Should I "svn add .ikiwiki" or add it to svn:ignore?

.ikiwiki is used by ikiwiki to store internal state. You can add it to svn:ignore. --[[Joey]]

Thanks a lot.

Is there an easy way to log via e-mail to some webmaster address, instead of via syslog?

Not sure why you'd want to do that, but couldn't you use a tool like logwatch to mail selected lines from the syslog? --[[Joey]]

The reason is that I'm not logged in on the web server regularly to check the log files. I'll see whether I can install a logwatch instance.


Excellent - how do I translate a TWiki site?

I just discovered ikiwiki quite by chance, I was looking for a console/terminal menu system and found pdmenu. So pdmenu brought me to here and I've found ikiwiki! It looks as if it's just what I've been wanting for a long time. I wanted something to create mostly text web pages which, as far as possible, have source which is human readable or at least in a standard format. ikiwiki does this twice over by using markdown for the source and producing static HTML from it.

I'm currently using TWiki and have a fair number of pages in that format, does anyone have any bright ideas for translating? I can knock up awk scripts fairly easily, perl is possible (but I'm not strong in perl).

Let us know if you come up with something to transition from the other format. Another option would be writing a ikiwiki plugin to support the TWiki format. --[[Joey]]

Jamey Sharp and I have a set of scripts in progress to convert other wikis to ikiwiki, including history, so that we can migrate a few of our wikis. We already have support for migrating MoinMoin wikis to ikiwiki, including conversion of the entire history to Git. We used this to convert the XCB wiki to ikiwiki; until we finalize the conversion and put the new wiki in place of the old one, you can browse the converted result at http://xcb.freedesktop.org/ikiwiki. We already plan to add support for TWiki (including history, since you can just run parsecvs on the TWiki RCS files to get Git), so that we can convert the Portland State Aerospace Society wiki (currently in Moin, but with much of its history in TWiki, and with many of its pages still in TWiki format using Jamey's TWiki format for MoinMoin).

Our scripts convert by way of HTML, using portions of the source wiki's code to render as HTML (with some additional code to do things like translate MoinMoin's \[[TableOfContents]] to ikiwiki's \[[toc ]]), and then using a modified [[cpan HTML::WikiConverter]] to turn this into markdown and ikiwiki. This produces quite satisfactory results, apart from things that don't have any markdown equivalent and thus remain HTML, such as tables and definition lists. Conversion of the history occurs by first using another script we wrote to translate MoinMoin history to Git, then using our git-map script to map a transformation over the Git history.

We will post the scripts as soon as we have them complete enough to convert our wikis.

-- [[JoshTriplett]]

Thanks for an excellent Xmas present, I will appreciate the additional users this will help switch to ikiwiki! --[[Joey]]


LaTeX support?

Moved to [[todo/latex]] --[[Joey]]


Using with CVS?

Moved to a [[todo_item|todo/CVS_backend]]. --[[JoshTriplett]]


Show differences before saving page?

Moved to the existing [[todo_item|todo/preview_changes]]. --[[JoshTriplett]]


Max submit size?

Any setting for limiting how many kilobytes can be submitted via the "edit" form? -- [[JeremyReed]]

See [[todo/fileupload]] for an idea on limiting page size. --[[Joey]]


Access Keys

Would anyone else find this a valuable addition. In oddmuse and instiki (the only other wiki engines I am currently using, the edit, home, and submit link tags have an accesskey attribute. I find it nice not to have to resort to the mouse for those actions. However, it may not be something everyone appreciates. Any thoughts? --Mazirian

Maybe, although it would need to take the critisism at http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/forms/accesskey.html into account.

Thank you for that link. Given that the edit link is the first thing you tab to in the current layout, I guess it isn't all that necessary. I have had a a user complaint recently that Alt-e in oddmuse was overriding his access to the browser menu.


Editing the style sheet.

It would be nice to be able to edit the stylesheet by means of the cgi. Or is this possible? I wasn't able to achieve it. Ok, that's my last 2 cents for a while. --Mazirian

I don't support editing it, but if/when ikiwiki gets [[todo/fileupload]] support, it'll be possible to upload a style sheet. (If .css is in the allowed extensions list.. no idea how safe that would be, a style sheet is probably a great place to put XSS attacks and evil javascript that would be filtered out of any regular page in ikiwiki). --[[Joey]]

I hadn't thought of that at all. It's a common feature and one I've relied on safely, because the wikis I am maintaining at the moment are all private and restricted to trusted users. Given that the whole point of ikiwiki is to be able to access and edit via the shell as well as the web, I suppose the features doesn't add a lot. By the way, the w3m mode is brilliant. I haven't tried it yet, but the idea is great.


Should not create an existing page

This might be a bug, but will discuss it here first. Clicking on an old "?" or going to a create link but new Markdown content exists, should not go into "create" mode, but should do a regular "edit".

I belive that currently it does a redirect to the new static web page. At least that's the intent of the code. --[[Joey]]

Try at your site: ?page=discussion&from=index&do=create It brings up an empty textarea to start a new webpage -- even though it already exists here. --reed

Ah, right. Notice that the resulting form allows saving the page as discussion, or users/discussion, but not index/discussion, since this page already exists. If all the pages existed, it would do the redirect thing. --[[Joey]]


User database tools?

Any tool to view user database?

Any tool to edit the user database?

No, but it's fairly easy to write such tools in perl. For example, to list all users in the user database:

joey@kodama:~/src/joeywiki/.ikiwiki>perl -le 'use Storable; my $userinfo=Storable::retrieve("userdb"); print $_ foreach keys %$userinfo'         
http://joey.kitenet.net/
foo

To list each user's email address:

joey@kodama:~/src/joeywiki/.ikiwiki>perl -le 'use Storable; my $userinfo=Storable::retrieve("userdb"); print $userinfo->{$_}->{email} foreach keys %$userinfo'

joey@kitenet.net

Editing is simply a matter of changing values and calling Storable::store(). I've not written actual utilities to do this yet because I've only needed to do it rarely, and the data I've wanted has been different each time. --[[Joey]]


Spaces in WikiLinks?

Hello Joey,

I've just switched from ikiwiki 2.0 to ikiwiki 2.2 and I'm really surprised that I can't use the spaces in WikiLinks. Could you please tell me why the spaces aren't allowed in WikiLinks now?

My best regards,

--[[Paweł|ptecza]]

This is not new behavior in 2.2 as far as I know. Ikiwiki was always interpreted "[ [foo bar] ]" as a preprocessor directive, with the whitespace after the first word being the significant bit that distinguishes it from a wikilink. If you want whitespace in a wikilink, you use underscores; there's been a note at the end of [[WikiLink]] about that for some time. --[[Joey]]


Build in OpenSolaris?

Moved to [[bugs/build_in_opensolaris]] --[[Joey]]