From 454d5206662c2e10c389855d7720bab5333912fd Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Joey Hess Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 09:39:46 -0400 Subject: web commit by http://madduck.net/ --- doc/todo/provide_a_mailing_list.mdwn | 22 ++++++++++++++++++++++ 1 file changed, 22 insertions(+) create mode 100644 doc/todo/provide_a_mailing_list.mdwn (limited to 'doc/todo/provide_a_mailing_list.mdwn') diff --git a/doc/todo/provide_a_mailing_list.mdwn b/doc/todo/provide_a_mailing_list.mdwn new file mode 100644 index 000000000..c4ed2f218 --- /dev/null +++ b/doc/todo/provide_a_mailing_list.mdwn @@ -0,0 +1,22 @@ +I am aware that you (Joey) [[made_a_choice_against_a_mailing_list|contact]], +but I would like to see you reconsider. + +The wiki works well for bugs and +collaborating on the software, but not for simple user support issues. For +instance, I spent the last three days waiting for any form of reply to my +question on IRC (none so far): + + 09 15:49 < madduck> any ideas how to implement a two-level menu + 09 15:40 < madduck> like http://www.abacons.ch/leistungen/treuhand.html ? + 09 15:50 < madduck> the top bar are the main sections + 09 15:50 < madduck> and then i might need subsections (further down) under each + 09 15:50 < madduck> i'd like to do this without hardcoding sections in the template + 09 15:50 < madduck> but at least the main sections are to appear on all pages + 09 15:50 < madduck> so the template needs a slot, i just wonder how best to fill it + 09 15:51 < madduck> i can only ever use one navbar it seems + 09 15:51 < madduck> and i already need the sidebar for something else + +I would not know where to take this question on the wiki itself. + +A mailing list is made for these kind of questions, and as we pick up even +more users, the number of such requests will also increase. --[[madduck]] -- cgit v1.2.3 From 7246bd756cc756ce1a82e644ab7e4cf641ea6151 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Joey Hess Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 09:41:09 -0400 Subject: web commit by http://madduck.net/: tag wishlist --- doc/todo/provide_a_mailing_list.mdwn | 2 ++ 1 file changed, 2 insertions(+) (limited to 'doc/todo/provide_a_mailing_list.mdwn') diff --git a/doc/todo/provide_a_mailing_list.mdwn b/doc/todo/provide_a_mailing_list.mdwn index c4ed2f218..af4879629 100644 --- a/doc/todo/provide_a_mailing_list.mdwn +++ b/doc/todo/provide_a_mailing_list.mdwn @@ -20,3 +20,5 @@ I would not know where to take this question on the wiki itself. A mailing list is made for these kind of questions, and as we pick up even more users, the number of such requests will also increase. --[[madduck]] + +[[tag wishlist]] -- cgit v1.2.3 From 4716ea913b0fdf6d6989a801e32736ac58db8ebc Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Joey Hess Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 15:59:17 -0400 Subject: web commit by http://liw.fi/: commenting on madduck's mailing list proposal --- doc/todo/provide_a_mailing_list.mdwn | 9 +++++++++ 1 file changed, 9 insertions(+) (limited to 'doc/todo/provide_a_mailing_list.mdwn') diff --git a/doc/todo/provide_a_mailing_list.mdwn b/doc/todo/provide_a_mailing_list.mdwn index af4879629..e72e1b50b 100644 --- a/doc/todo/provide_a_mailing_list.mdwn +++ b/doc/todo/provide_a_mailing_list.mdwn @@ -21,4 +21,13 @@ I would not know where to take this question on the wiki itself. A mailing list is made for these kind of questions, and as we pick up even more users, the number of such requests will also increase. --[[madduck]] +> I wouldn't mind a mailing list myself. For many people, e-mail is more +> efficient to process, particularly offline, than wiki pages. Also, +> ikiwiki's discussion pages require a fair amount of discipline from +> users to make it easy to follow a long discussion. On the other hand, +> it would be interesting to make improvements to ikiwiki +> (read: plugins) to to see if it's possible to accomodate both +> mail people and online people. +> --[liw](http://liw.fi) + [[tag wishlist]] -- cgit v1.2.3 From e7e728cdfe374744710b259a7eb2a459b3a918d7 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Joey Hess Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 16:26:19 -0400 Subject: web commit by http://smichael.myopenid.com/: wiki mail experience --- doc/todo/provide_a_mailing_list.mdwn | 7 +++++++ 1 file changed, 7 insertions(+) (limited to 'doc/todo/provide_a_mailing_list.mdwn') diff --git a/doc/todo/provide_a_mailing_list.mdwn b/doc/todo/provide_a_mailing_list.mdwn index e72e1b50b..4359418a0 100644 --- a/doc/todo/provide_a_mailing_list.mdwn +++ b/doc/todo/provide_a_mailing_list.mdwn @@ -30,4 +30,11 @@ more users, the number of such requests will also increase. --[[madduck]] > mail people and online people. > --[liw](http://liw.fi) +>> The Zwiki project has ideas to mine in this area. We explored various permutations of wiki and mail list +>> Currently Zwiki's email features are good enough that we use it as the mail list and don't run separate +>> ml software. This is simple and mostly satisfying. Now and then we miss the familiarity and industrial +>> strength of a standard mail list and its simple time-based archive. We do gateway with gmane so people +>> can use that as an alternative. I'm happy to chat about this, ping me.. +>> -- [sm](http://joyful.com) + [[tag wishlist]] -- cgit v1.2.3 From 8ce192cc0f112896161aad3eaef54df506de4c7f Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Joey Hess Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 16:28:54 -0400 Subject: web commit by http://smichael.myopenid.com/ --- doc/todo/provide_a_mailing_list.mdwn | 2 +- 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-) (limited to 'doc/todo/provide_a_mailing_list.mdwn') diff --git a/doc/todo/provide_a_mailing_list.mdwn b/doc/todo/provide_a_mailing_list.mdwn index 4359418a0..f1a11899d 100644 --- a/doc/todo/provide_a_mailing_list.mdwn +++ b/doc/todo/provide_a_mailing_list.mdwn @@ -30,7 +30,7 @@ more users, the number of such requests will also increase. --[[madduck]] > mail people and online people. > --[liw](http://liw.fi) ->> The Zwiki project has ideas to mine in this area. We explored various permutations of wiki and mail list +>> The Zwiki project has ideas to mine in this area. We explored various permutations of wiki and mail list. >> Currently Zwiki's email features are good enough that we use it as the mail list and don't run separate >> ml software. This is simple and mostly satisfying. Now and then we miss the familiarity and industrial >> strength of a standard mail list and its simple time-based archive. We do gateway with gmane so people -- cgit v1.2.3 From 1d1124d5269f8090ec1c5b3f45338a810e131d1d Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Joey Hess Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 16:33:46 -0400 Subject: web commit by http://smichael.myopenid.com/: links --- doc/todo/provide_a_mailing_list.mdwn | 8 ++++---- 1 file changed, 4 insertions(+), 4 deletions(-) (limited to 'doc/todo/provide_a_mailing_list.mdwn') diff --git a/doc/todo/provide_a_mailing_list.mdwn b/doc/todo/provide_a_mailing_list.mdwn index f1a11899d..f34ed77c6 100644 --- a/doc/todo/provide_a_mailing_list.mdwn +++ b/doc/todo/provide_a_mailing_list.mdwn @@ -30,11 +30,11 @@ more users, the number of such requests will also increase. --[[madduck]] > mail people and online people. > --[liw](http://liw.fi) ->> The Zwiki project has ideas to mine in this area. We explored various permutations of wiki and mail list. ->> Currently Zwiki's email features are good enough that we use it as the mail list and don't run separate +>> The [Zwiki](http://zwiki.org) project has ideas to mine in this area. We explored various permutations of wiki and mail list. +>> Currently Zwiki's [email features](http://zwiki.org/Mail) are good enough that we use it as the mail list and don't run separate >> ml software. This is simple and mostly satisfying. Now and then we miss the familiarity and industrial ->> strength of a standard mail list and its simple time-based archive. We do gateway with gmane so people +>> strength of a standard mail list and its simple time-based archive. We do gateway with [gmane](http://news.gmane.org/gmane.comp.web.zope.zwiki) so people >> can use that as an alternative. I'm happy to chat about this, ping me.. ->> -- [sm](http://joyful.com) +>> --[sm](http://joyful.com) [[tag wishlist]] -- cgit v1.2.3