From 2995ce6f2c9c3861547ff681ffbdbdf8c813f8ac Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Joey Hess Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 23:48:58 -0400 Subject: thought --- doc/todo/clear_page_to_delete.mdwn | 2 ++ 1 file changed, 2 insertions(+) create mode 100644 doc/todo/clear_page_to_delete.mdwn (limited to 'doc/todo/clear_page_to_delete.mdwn') diff --git a/doc/todo/clear_page_to_delete.mdwn b/doc/todo/clear_page_to_delete.mdwn new file mode 100644 index 000000000..0c218c987 --- /dev/null +++ b/doc/todo/clear_page_to_delete.mdwn @@ -0,0 +1,2 @@ +Would it make sense to automatically delete a page if it's edited and +cleared to be entirely empty (or only have whitespace)? Discuss. -- cgit v1.2.3 From 37a0fbebd4d356316189cf147f5e41821234ddb7 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: "http://alcopop.org/me/openid/" Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 11:00:37 -0400 Subject: --- doc/todo/clear_page_to_delete.mdwn | 2 ++ 1 file changed, 2 insertions(+) (limited to 'doc/todo/clear_page_to_delete.mdwn') diff --git a/doc/todo/clear_page_to_delete.mdwn b/doc/todo/clear_page_to_delete.mdwn index 0c218c987..243b9f55e 100644 --- a/doc/todo/clear_page_to_delete.mdwn +++ b/doc/todo/clear_page_to_delete.mdwn @@ -1,2 +1,4 @@ Would it make sense to automatically delete a page if it's edited and cleared to be entirely empty (or only have whitespace)? Discuss. + + I'd say so; yes. A method of deleting pages via the web would be great; I can't think of a use of keeping blank pages around. What about vandalism -- if someone blanks a page and deletes it and someone else wishes to restore it; or is undoing edits via the web a bigger issue? -- [[JonDowland]] -- cgit v1.2.3 From ef4b9b54206bec2930d387b57ebbb5d7b2a5dce2 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Joey Hess Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 21:16:27 -0400 Subject: response --- doc/todo/clear_page_to_delete.mdwn | 16 ++++++++++++++-- 1 file changed, 14 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-) (limited to 'doc/todo/clear_page_to_delete.mdwn') diff --git a/doc/todo/clear_page_to_delete.mdwn b/doc/todo/clear_page_to_delete.mdwn index 243b9f55e..1a0d3f008 100644 --- a/doc/todo/clear_page_to_delete.mdwn +++ b/doc/todo/clear_page_to_delete.mdwn @@ -1,4 +1,16 @@ Would it make sense to automatically delete a page if it's edited and -cleared to be entirely empty (or only have whitespace)? Discuss. +cleared to be entirely empty (or only have whitespace)? Discuss. --[[Joey]] - I'd say so; yes. A method of deleting pages via the web would be great; I can't think of a use of keeping blank pages around. What about vandalism -- if someone blanks a page and deletes it and someone else wishes to restore it; or is undoing edits via the web a bigger issue? -- [[JonDowland]] + I'd say so; yes. A method of deleting pages via the web would be great; I +can't think of a use of keeping blank pages around. What about vandalism -- +if someone blanks a page and deletes it and someone else wishes to restore +it; or is undoing edits via the web a bigger issue? -- [[JonDowland]] + +Of course there's already a way to delete pages (remove plugin). So the +question is really: + +* Does it make sense to have a second way to do it, by clearing the page? +* Should it be enabled even if the full remove plugin isn't? + +Re vandalism in general, I am generally happy using git-revert to kill the +offending change. --[[Joey]] -- cgit v1.2.3 From ac8e8f5ad7387a815cb0eb1b0a662694c86f2439 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: intrigeri Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 18:55:05 -0400 Subject: one more opinion --- doc/todo/clear_page_to_delete.mdwn | 4 ++++ 1 file changed, 4 insertions(+) (limited to 'doc/todo/clear_page_to_delete.mdwn') diff --git a/doc/todo/clear_page_to_delete.mdwn b/doc/todo/clear_page_to_delete.mdwn index 1a0d3f008..eddce79b4 100644 --- a/doc/todo/clear_page_to_delete.mdwn +++ b/doc/todo/clear_page_to_delete.mdwn @@ -14,3 +14,7 @@ question is really: Re vandalism in general, I am generally happy using git-revert to kill the offending change. --[[Joey]] + +I don't think we need a second way to delete pages, which would probably be +used by the only few people who will learn it's possible by random +documentation reading, find it useful, *and* remember it. -- [[intrigeri]] -- cgit v1.2.3 From 4a958e0c1e1d3f49c665c5d4aa89214ecbd61bdd Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: tschwinge Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 04:58:04 -0400 Subject: My thoughts. --- doc/todo/clear_page_to_delete.mdwn | 6 ++++++ 1 file changed, 6 insertions(+) (limited to 'doc/todo/clear_page_to_delete.mdwn') diff --git a/doc/todo/clear_page_to_delete.mdwn b/doc/todo/clear_page_to_delete.mdwn index eddce79b4..ccb7634e5 100644 --- a/doc/todo/clear_page_to_delete.mdwn +++ b/doc/todo/clear_page_to_delete.mdwn @@ -18,3 +18,9 @@ offending change. --[[Joey]] I don't think we need a second way to delete pages, which would probably be used by the only few people who will learn it's possible by random documentation reading, find it useful, *and* remember it. -- [[intrigeri]] + +On the other hand, clearing the page's whole content essentially means deleting +the page. That's what the user intended to do in this case. The information +content of an empty vs. a deleted page is essentially the same, I'd say. But +having ikiwiki remove those stale pages would save some (minimal, admittedly) +time needed for manual clean-up. --[[tschwinge]] -- cgit v1.2.3 From 044e34f329a989509cf87f21701b23158e2a4af6 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: "http://xma.myopenid.com/" Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 10:06:26 -0400 Subject: My opinion --- doc/todo/clear_page_to_delete.mdwn | 5 +++++ 1 file changed, 5 insertions(+) (limited to 'doc/todo/clear_page_to_delete.mdwn') diff --git a/doc/todo/clear_page_to_delete.mdwn b/doc/todo/clear_page_to_delete.mdwn index ccb7634e5..36742fe21 100644 --- a/doc/todo/clear_page_to_delete.mdwn +++ b/doc/todo/clear_page_to_delete.mdwn @@ -24,3 +24,8 @@ the page. That's what the user intended to do in this case. The information content of an empty vs. a deleted page is essentially the same, I'd say. But having ikiwiki remove those stale pages would save some (minimal, admittedly) time needed for manual clean-up. --[[tschwinge]] + +On EmacsWiki, a page is marked for deletion when it contains just the DeletedPage +keyword and if there were no page editions since XX days. Here, I use pages that +can be empty everyday and filled all day long. It does not make sense to me to +delete these pages :). --[[xma]] -- cgit v1.2.3 From 3a07fc2802e05dca7a12319067787ac0761aa5f3 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: "http://alcopop.org/me/openid/" Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 10:23:41 -0400 Subject: I was not aware of remove. --- doc/todo/clear_page_to_delete.mdwn | 2 ++ 1 file changed, 2 insertions(+) (limited to 'doc/todo/clear_page_to_delete.mdwn') diff --git a/doc/todo/clear_page_to_delete.mdwn b/doc/todo/clear_page_to_delete.mdwn index 36742fe21..50ae246bb 100644 --- a/doc/todo/clear_page_to_delete.mdwn +++ b/doc/todo/clear_page_to_delete.mdwn @@ -29,3 +29,5 @@ On EmacsWiki, a page is marked for deletion when it contains just the DeletedPag keyword and if there were no page editions since XX days. Here, I use pages that can be empty everyday and filled all day long. It does not make sense to me to delete these pages :). --[[xma]] + +I was not aware of [[plugins/remove]]. I don't think another method is necessary -- [[JonDowland]] -- cgit v1.2.3 From e7594b33eba69099e9143076f5692cc02f9ca782 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: "http://alcopop.org/me/openid/" Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 10:00:35 -0500 Subject: update for rename of users/jondowland.mdwn to users/jon.mdwn --- doc/todo/clear_page_to_delete.mdwn | 4 ++-- 1 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-) (limited to 'doc/todo/clear_page_to_delete.mdwn') diff --git a/doc/todo/clear_page_to_delete.mdwn b/doc/todo/clear_page_to_delete.mdwn index 50ae246bb..6bab6ef27 100644 --- a/doc/todo/clear_page_to_delete.mdwn +++ b/doc/todo/clear_page_to_delete.mdwn @@ -4,7 +4,7 @@ cleared to be entirely empty (or only have whitespace)? Discuss. --[[Joey]] I'd say so; yes. A method of deleting pages via the web would be great; I can't think of a use of keeping blank pages around. What about vandalism -- if someone blanks a page and deletes it and someone else wishes to restore -it; or is undoing edits via the web a bigger issue? -- [[JonDowland]] +it; or is undoing edits via the web a bigger issue? -- [[users/Jon]] Of course there's already a way to delete pages (remove plugin). So the question is really: @@ -30,4 +30,4 @@ keyword and if there were no page editions since XX days. Here, I use pages that can be empty everyday and filled all day long. It does not make sense to me to delete these pages :). --[[xma]] -I was not aware of [[plugins/remove]]. I don't think another method is necessary -- [[JonDowland]] +I was not aware of [[plugins/remove]]. I don't think another method is necessary -- [[users/Jon]] -- cgit v1.2.3